Pisa Explorer The area once probably occupied by the american Disciplinary Training Center of Metato where Ezra Pound was held.
Before being definitively dismantled in the '50s, the infrastructures of the
DTC were used as a refugee camp for the Istrians expelled from Yugoslavia.
Mike
Stoakes are you sure this is the right place?
it's mt taishan but the location of the camp as far as i can research is about
43.762819,10.347637 on google maps
Pisa
Explorer Hallo Mike, I'm not sure this is the
right place..... I only suppose it is by talking to the locals, from the view
of the mountain, from the distance from both track of the airfield and the
Serchio river. I apologize for being so inaccurate. I just had I apologize for being so inaccurate. I just had the
feelling that was the right place but I'm not able to show any scientific
evidence. I will add a "probably" on the description of the photo.
Thanks a lot for writing. If you ever come to Pisa let me know so, if you like,
we can go to Metato togheter. 
Mike
Stoakes hi explorer. the descriptions from
several sources put it on the road to viareggio - hugh kenner's map shows it
just south of the bridge and allen's description i'll post below to name but
two but you might have thought the local people would know. i have just looked
around the area on street view so can approximately guess where you took your
picture. best mikeMike
Stoakes http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=c6XFst17m-cC&pg=PA5&lpg=PA5&dq=robert+l+allen+the+cage&source=bl&ots=BhSAex5VkD&sig=lcS6FxIt4tjNhDaWuytITnfxqwo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=KY5mUbLJDMnTPMmHgPgO&ved=0CEgQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=robert%20l%20allen%20the%20cage&f=false
books.google.co.uk
What stands out so clearly in these "remembrances of
things past" is the unmistakable ring
of authenticity in every account, a rare quality in the literature of war. Even
after 70 years, every recollection remains vivid. Time has done little to dim
those parlous times and recollections; they add dep...
Mike
Stoakes if you are here we can visit stone
cottage where it all started - pound and yeats holed up together for three
consecutive winters
WB Yeats & Ezra Pound rented Stone Cottage, Coleman's
Hatch, near Ashdown Forest...See More
Pisa
Explorer Hi Mike, in 2011 a spasish writer,
Justo Navarro, has written a very interesting book about Pound in Italy, in
Metato and about his relationship with the fascist regime. It's called El espia
(The spy) and might have been translated in english too. In the next days I'll
go to Metato and see if I have a better luck in finding the Dtc... All the
best.
Mike
Stoakes hi PE. i don't know if you chose those
initials because you are a great fan of EP the poet we are discussing! I don't
think pound was a spy. hugh kenner has a map in his book that roughly shows the
location of the camp. he puts it just over the bridge from viareggio. i don't
know if i can post it to you through a message. Conversation
started April 29 10:39am
hi PE. here is the map from hugh kenner
http://www.uncg.edu/eng/pound/taishan2.gif
Mike
Stoakes i think your photo was taken here
43.769777,10.354915 near cassini but from kenner's map it's nearer here
43.755853,10.355741Pisa
Explorer Thanks Mike. So 43.769777,10.354915 is
not the place... That's exactly from where I took the photo. From the map on
the book it's clear that the DTC was along or very close along the Aurelia, the
road that takes to Viareggio, exatly where shows 43.755853,10.355741.
I'll try to find out and report.
Pisa Explorer
Neither do I think that EP was a spy, the idea itself is just ridiculous.
Surely the writer in this case seems to have been the victim of a sort of a
scoop/commercial approach. And also the fact
that EP and Angleton knew each other may have played a role.However, the book it is interesting to read about how EP moved after the armistice with the Allies and the kind of relationships he activated or tried to activate in Rome.
PE has nothing to do with EP. I've always been intrigued by how such a sublime poet has been able to fully identify himself with the Italian fascism and its leader so to become himself a caricature of the perfect Mussolinian and become part of the "operetta".
hi PE. this is another article that
might help.
Thanks
Mike
Stoakes hi PE and thanks for that. wendy flory
talks about pound suffering psychosis after the death of gaudier-brzeska, but i
would have thought there would have been a lot of appealing things in early
fascism to the persona pound constructed and his form of modernism. i have a couple of scanned pictures from the
letters which might have some clues for you even though one seems to be mostly
of sky. pound could see the road to pisa from the cell. mike
Thursday
11:20am
11:51am
in this photo there are some buildings
quite close to the camp. the satellite view in google maps shows some
interesting crop marks in the field north of via delle catene madonna d acqua,
a suitable name for a road by a prison.
12:15pm
the photo of sky by col. julien h le
page was taken from dtc 004 (in 1994). he was an officer at the camp.
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